dlthomas comments on Protein Reinforcement and DNA Consequentialism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: J_Thomas 13 November 2007 02:41:14AM 2 points [-]

Reinforcement learning isn't trivial, but it might be kind of modular. Evolution doesn't have to create reinforcement learning from scratch every time, it can re-use the existing structures and just hook in new inputs.

Learning takes a lot of overhead. Much less overhead if you can simply be born knowing what you need to know, instinctively. Konrad Lorenz believed that instincts somehow develop out of learned behavior. He looked at related species where one had an instinctual behavior and the other had to learn the same behavior. It takes so long to learn instincts by mutation and selection, it's intuitively obvious that learning should come first and then be replaced by instinct over time. But Lorenz didn't propose a mechanism for that to happen and I don't know a mechanism either.

We do so much less instinct than other animals that I'm tempted to think we haven't spent much time in consistent predictable environments. Maybe we've always lived by disrupting ecosystems and surviving in the chaos -- a role we would manage better than animals that do less flexible thinking.

Comment author: dlthomas 25 October 2011 04:05:30PM 1 point [-]

It takes so long to learn instincts by mutation and selection, it's intuitively obvious that learning should come first and then be replaced by instinct over time. But Lorenz didn't propose a mechanism for that to happen and I don't know a mechanism either.

The mechanism seems straightforward: evolution by mutation and natural selection. If a species is in a stable (enough) environment, and the learning process is costly in energy, time, or both (and there will necessarily be some cost), then those who don't have to learn as much will be selected for.

Comment author: pnrjulius 07 June 2012 12:39:49AM 1 point [-]

There's an evolutionary principle that corresponds to exactly this---learned behaviors that evolve to become innate---but I can't remember the name of it and it's very hard to google for things you can't remember the name of.

Comment author: johnlawrenceaspden 28 August 2012 08:21:11PM 3 points [-]

the Baldwin effect