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68 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 13 November 2007 07:38PM

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Comment author: James_D._Miller 13 November 2007 08:21:27PM 5 points [-]

Eliezer, you wrote:

"Or else what would we do with the future? What would we do with the billion galaxies in the night sky? Fill them with maximally efficient replicators? Should our descendants deliberately obsess about maximizing their inclusive genetic fitness, regarding all else only as a means to that end?"

Won't our descendants who do have genes or code that causes them to maximize their genetic fitness come to dominate the billions of galaxies. How can there be any other stable long term equilibrium in a universe in which many lifeforms have the ability to choose their own utility functions?

Comment author: PhilGoetz 08 May 2010 04:19:06AM 3 points [-]

Genetic fitness refers to reproduction of individuals. The future will not have a firm concept of individuals. What is relevant is control of resources; this is independent of reproduction.

Furthermore, what we think of today as individuality, will correspond to information in the future. Reproduction will correspond to high mutual information. And high mutual information in your algorithms leads to inefficient use of resources. Therefore, evolution, and competition, will at least in this way go against the future correlate of "genetic fitness".

Comment author: diegocaleiro 24 November 2010 08:14:28AM 12 points [-]

Wow, too big an inferential distance Phil. No idea what you are tallking about here "what we think of today as individuality, will correspond to information in the future."

Would you mind giving a few more details? Curiosity striking...

Comment author: Lambda 24 March 2012 03:16:50AM 1 point [-]

Would you mind giving a few more details? Curiosity striking...

I've been lurking for a while, and this is my first post, but:

Would you mind giving far fewer details? Consciously imposed conjunction-aversion striking...

FTFY. Instead of asking for a single detailed story, we should ask for many simple alternative stories, no?

Obviously, this doesn't countermand your complaint about inferential distance, which I totally agree with.

Comment author: ikacer 21 April 2016 09:31:44PM -1 points [-]

Still waiting for OP to deliver...

It's probably just something stupid like he thinks humans will upload on computers and he thinks he knows how future society-analogues will function.