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Comment author: James_Miller 16 October 2014 10:17:23PM *  9 points [-]

For the U.S. we could craft messages for both the Red and Blue tribes.

To convince Blues let's say that opposing eradicating the biting mosquitoes is racist since mosquitoes kill so many Africans, and that Reds don't want us to kill mosquitoes because they fear African population growth.

To convince Reds say that mighty American technology can cheaply crush the disgusting disease-carrying bloodsuckers, and Blues oppose killing mosquitoes because they love the environment more than people.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 October 2014 02:12:48AM 2 points [-]

Or we could see that sometimes we actually have shared interests, and act on them.

Comment author: HungryHobo 17 October 2014 09:56:31AM 0 points [-]

In a perfect world. But tribalism is a tough nut to crack. sometimes people will oppose interventions for serious problems largely because the other tribe is in favour.

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 October 2014 02:33:25PM -1 points [-]

James argues that we should specifically play into tribalism.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 October 2014 06:48:27PM 0 points [-]

Which, although I initially pooh poohed it, could be a transformative idea.

Are there any teams and competitions in effective altruism? Rankings? Keeping track of who is winning? Rivalries?

I've been playing Ingress for a while, and all the effort both sides are putting in for nothing nags at me. Time spent on sports, or politics, nags at me.

If we harnessed that "team spirit" toward actually producing value in the world, that would make a very different world.

Altruism Sport. Go team go. Rah Rah Rah.

And back to James, sure, you'd probably want to appeal to the Red team, appeal to the Blue team, and also appeal to the antidivisive We as well. Play all the messages to all the markets.

Comment author: James_Miller 17 October 2014 10:11:22PM 5 points [-]

If it is transformative, Scott Alexander deserves the credit.

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 October 2014 07:35:57PM -1 points [-]

If we harnessed that "team spirit" toward actually producing value in the world, that would make a very different world.

Providing we actually do work on the right projects and don't pick the wrong battles.