RichardKennaway comments on Open thread, Oct. 20 - Oct. 26, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: D_Malik 22 October 2014 07:33:53AM 5 points [-]

It seems likely that you could get much of the benefit of cryopreservation for a fraction of the cost, without actually getting your head frozen, by just recording your life in great detail.

A while back, I started tracking e.g. every time I switch between windows, or send out an HTTP request, etc. - not with this in mind, but just so I can draw pretty graphs. It doesn't seem that it would be beyond a superintelligent AI to reconstruct my mind from this data. For better fidelity, maybe include some brain scans and your DNA sequence.

And this sort of preservation might be more reliable than cryopreservation in many ways - frozen brains would be destroyed by a nuclear war, for instance, whereas if you put a hard disk in a box and buried it in a desert somewhere that would probably stay safe for a few millennia. To be more sure, you might even launch such a "horcrux" into space, where pre-singularity people won't get their grubby monkey fingers on it.

If the entire internet were backed up in this way, that might be a lot of people effectively preserved.

Thoughts?

(Also, upon doing something like this, you should increase your belief that you're in an ancestor simulation, since you've just made that more feasible.)

(Also, this would go badly in the case of a "valley of bad utility functions" fooming AI.)

Comment author: RichardKennaway 22 October 2014 01:04:08PM 3 points [-]

If the entire internet were backed up in this way, that might be a lot of people effectively preserved.

Thoughts?

I think it has as much chance of success as the ancient Egyptians' practice of mummification.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 22 October 2014 10:51:45PM 2 points [-]

Is there any chance that mummification preserves enough information for revival?

Comment author: gwern 23 October 2014 01:25:02AM *  5 points [-]

Given the part where they stir up and scoop out the brains, I would be extremely surprised if anything could recover them from their bodies (barring some sort of bizarre Tiplerian 'create all possible humans using infinite computing power' scenario).

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 23 October 2014 08:05:08AM 3 points [-]

Ok, I should have remembered that. But the Egyptians were not the only people who practised mummification, as well as accidental mummification. Any chance of them surviving? What about Lenin's embalmed body?

Comment author: gwern 26 October 2014 10:33:57PM 4 points [-]

It's been a very long time since I read Lenin's Embalmers, but the brain seems to be in pretty bad shape these days:

No one seems to know what's happened to Lenin's heart, but Soviet ideologists were sure that his brain was something special. They brought in a renowned German scientist to examine it for clues to the great man's genius, but nothing came of it. The brain is still kept at a Moscow institute. "But it's not easy to see it," Zbarsky said. "It's mostly dissected."

Or http://bookhaven.stanford.edu/2010/09/the-curious-and-complicated-history-of-lenins-brain/