Vladimir_Nesov comments on Is the potential astronomical waste in our universe too small to care about? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 21 October 2014 09:52:30PM *  3 points [-]

If Moral Parliament can make deals, it could as well decide on a single goal to be followed thereafter, at which point moral uncertainty is resolved (at least formally). For this to be a good idea, the resulting goal has to be sensitive to facts discovered in the future. This should also hold for other deals, so it seems to me that unconditional redistribution of resources in not the kind of deal that a Moral Parliament should make. Some unconditional redistributions of resources are better than others, but even better are conditional deals that say where the resources will go depending on what is discovered in the future. And while resources could be wasted, so that at a future point you won't be able to direct at much in a new direction, seats in the Moral Parliament can't be.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 01 November 2014 06:45:30PM 0 points [-]

If Moral Parliament can make deals, it could as well decide on a single goal to be followed thereafter, at which point moral uncertainty is resolved (at least formally). For this to be a good idea, the resulting goal has to be sensitive to facts discovered in the future.

The "Eve" delegates want the "Tom" delegates to have less power no matter what, so they will support a deal that gives the "Tom" delegates less expected power in the near term. The "Tom" delegates give greater value to open-ended futures, so they will trade away power in the near term in exchange for more power if the future turns out to be open ended.

So this seems to be a case where both parties support a deal that takes away sensitivity if the future turns out to be short. Both parties support a deal that gives the "Eve" delegates more power in that case.