Prismattic comments on Non-standard politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Prismattic 25 October 2014 05:06:09AM 3 points [-]

"Paying people to be poor" carries an additional connotation of "encouraging them to remain poor"; it's distinct from "paying people because they are currently poor".

Comment author: Coscott 25 October 2014 03:43:10PM 3 points [-]

I do not understand your argument. If people know that taxes/basic income are coming in the future, that is an incentive for them to become poor relative to if taxes/basic income was not coming. They may not say "Oh, that is a good deal, I want to be poor," but they may work less or take bigger financial risks because of it, because being poor is relatively less bad than it would be otherwise.

Comment author: Prismattic 25 October 2014 06:36:36PM 1 point [-]

The ability to declare bankruptcy has a similar relationship to the riskiness of entrepreneurial activity, but we do not generally describe bankruptcy law as "encouraging people to fail at business" or "paying people to fail at business."

Comment author: lmm 25 October 2014 07:40:16PM 4 points [-]

Maybe we should?

Comment author: [deleted] 25 October 2014 07:34:55PM 0 points [-]

"Paying people to be poor" carries an additional connotation of "encouraging them to remain poor"

IANA native speaker, but I'm not even sure it's just a connotation. It sounds to me like it's part of the denotation, and if I didn't want it I'd word it as “paying people for being poor”.