pragmatist comments on Non-standard politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Azathoth123 26 October 2014 11:35:47PM 0 points [-]

For instance, progressives in the United States tend to be in favor of ending the drug war, or at the very least legalizing marijuana, on the grounds that the current regime hurts people unnecessarily.

By that logic does the fact that they favor more regulation of tobacco count as wanting to hurt the "right" people?

Also they favor making the "rich" pay their "fair share", eliminating due process for men accused of rape, etc., because the rich and college men need to be punished for their "privilege".

Comment author: pragmatist 27 October 2014 07:59:21AM *  3 points [-]

I think you're mischaracterizing the motivations of (most) progressives. I don't believe that they are motivated by a desire to punish the privileged.

There is a difference between supporting policies that hurt people and supporting those policies because they hurt people. Progressives, like most other political actors, support plenty of policies that hurt people, but I don't think it's accurate to say they support them because they hurt people.

An example from the other side: A lot of social conservatives support bans on gay marriage. I think these bans hurt people unnecessarily, but I don't think their supporters want to hurt people, or are motivated by a desire to hurt people.

Comment author: Azathoth123 28 October 2014 01:14:59AM 0 points [-]

I think you're mischaracterizing the motivations of (most) progressives. I don't believe that they are motivated by a desire to punish the privileged.

Read what progressives like Ezra Klien actually write.

Comment author: slutbunwaller 28 October 2014 04:15:18AM 1 point [-]

Are you trying to describe an entire ideology based on one article by one author? I consider myself a progressive and don't agree with a lot of what Ezra Klein, or many other pundits who label themselves in such a way, have to say.

Also not completely related but I don't think that sensationalist website necessarily does a good job representing Klein's point of view on the issue.