Azathoth123 comments on Non-standard politics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: hesperidia 29 October 2014 06:26:28AM 0 points [-]

Not on every single one, no. For example, I think that a basic income is both practical and achievable (relatively speaking) in a way that turning every single corporation into a worker-owned workshop is not. This is not seen as a "socialist" viewpoint in the places I frequent. In fact, it is seen as selling out by letting the capitalists pacify the working class by throwing them a few more table scraps. Issues like this are why I do not want 'socialist' in my identity.

Comment author: Azathoth123 29 October 2014 06:32:05AM *  2 points [-]

I think what's going on here is that you are so used to hanging out around other socialists that you feel like you're taking a right wing position merely by being a moderate socialist.

For example, I think that a basic income is both practical and achievable (relatively speaking) in a way that turning every single corporation into a worker-owned workshop is not.

What do you mean by "non practical and achievable"? Do you mean that you think they're merely politically infeasible or that they wouldn't work even if they could be implemented?

Comment author: hesperidia 29 October 2014 07:28:21AM 1 point [-]

Huh, you might be right about that. There's also the fact that the word "socialist" is extremely negative in the US (where I live), so it's something that I am leery about explicitly identifying with.

In this case I mean that they might work if implemented - and similar things have worked in the past on small scales - but there may be insurmountable problems in the scaling-up process, not all of them political. (Most of them are, though.)