Capla comments on Open thread, Oct. 27 - Nov. 2, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Capla 27 October 2014 06:06:02PM 1 point [-]

I want to discuss it, and be shown wrong if I'm being unfair, but saying "It's standard [blank] stuff" seems dismissive. Suppose I was talking with someone about friendly AI or the singularity, and a third person comes around and says "Oh, that's just standard Less Wrong stuff." It may or may not be the case, but it feels like that third person is categorizing the idea and dismissing it, instead of dealing with my arguments outright. That is not conducive to communication.

Comment author: RowanE 27 October 2014 07:20:19PM 2 points [-]

I was trying to say "you should not expect that someone who thinks no social, political or moral progress has been made since the 18th century to consider women's rights to be a big step forward" in a way that wasn't insulting to Nate_Gabriel - being casually dismissive of an idea makes "you seem to be ignorant about [idea]" less harsh.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 October 2014 06:15:19PM 1 point [-]

but it feels like that third person is categorizing the idea and dismissing it, instead of dealing with my arguments outright.

This comment could be (but not necessarily is) valid with the meaning of "Your arguments are part of a well-established set of arguments and counter-arguments, so there is no point in going through them once again. Either go meta or produce a novel argument.".