Vaniver comments on Open thread, Oct. 27 - Nov. 2, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 28 October 2014 12:56:24AM *  10 points [-]

It is extremely important to find out how to have a successful community without sociopaths.

(In far mode, most people would probably agree with this. But when the first sociopath comes, most people would be like "oh, we can't send this person away just because of X; they also have so many good traits" or "I don't agree with everything they do, but right now we are in a confict with the enemy tribe, and this person can help us win; they may be an asshole, but they are our asshole". I believe that avoiding these - any maybe many other - failure modes is critical if we ever want to have a Friendly society.)

Comment author: Vaniver 30 October 2014 02:49:51PM 9 points [-]

It is extremely important to find out how to have a successful community without sociopaths.

It seems to me there may be more value in finding out how to have a successful community with sociopaths. So long as the incentives are set up so that they behave properly, who cares what their internal experience is?

(The analogy to Friendly AI is worth considering, though.)

Comment author: Azathoth123 02 November 2014 04:16:08AM 1 point [-]

(The analogy to Friendly AI is worth considering, though.)

Ok, so start by examining the suspected sociopath's source code. Wait, we have a problem.