lackofcheese comments on "Solving" selfishness for UDT - Less Wrong

18 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 27 October 2014 05:51PM

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Comment author: lackofcheese 29 October 2014 07:55:08PM *  1 point [-]

OK, the "you cause 1/10 of the policy to happen" argument is intuitively reasonable, but under that kind of argument divided responsibility has nothing to do with how many agents are subjectively indistinguishable and instead has to do with the agents who actually participate in the linked decision.

On those grounds, "divided responsibility" would give the right answer in Psy-Kosh's non-anthropic problem. However, this also means your argument that SIA+divided = SSA+total clearly fails, because of the example I just gave before, and because SSA+total gives the wrong answer in Psy-Kosh's non-anthropic problem but SIA+divided does not.

Ah, subjective anticipation... That's an interesting question. I often wonder whether it's meaningful.

As do I. But, as Manfred has said, I don't think that being confused about it is sufficient reason to believe it's meaningless.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 30 October 2014 09:44:28AM 1 point [-]

The divergence between reference class (of identical people) and reference class (of agents with the same decision) is why I advocate for ADT (which is essentially UDT in an anthropic setting).