DataPacRat comments on Stupid Questions (10/27/2014) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DataPacRat 28 October 2014 01:52:46AM 1 point [-]

Is breaking a Karma score of 1,000 still considered a threshold of becoming a 'real' member of LW?

Comment author: CellBioGuy 28 October 2014 04:52:14AM *  11 points [-]

I've got over 1000 and pretty much feel like an observer that periodically gets massively upvoted for injecting biology and astronomy information and analysis, which just happens to more than cancel out my negative karma from frequent jibes at local phenomena I find amusing or troubling.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 28 October 2014 07:46:30AM *  3 points [-]

Thanks for your contributions!

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 02 November 2014 07:44:27AM *  2 points [-]

One way you're a 'real' member is that I recognize your username and remember you as a distinct user who tends to write about specific stuff. Random new users are just indistinct name mass until they show up often enough to start getting recognized.

Though it probably makes you become a real member faster when your username helpfully describes the stuff you know and will be talking about.

Based on a quick look around this thread, 1000 karma does seem like a reasonably good rule of thumb threshold between an username being obscure and at least vaguely familiar. On the other hand, DataPacRat apparently only went over 1000 just recently but has been making discussion posts for years, so I've recognized their username for a long time now.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 28 October 2014 12:36:33PM 10 points [-]
Comment author: satt 03 November 2014 05:27:26AM 1 point [-]

People who believe themselves to be free, and indeed are free, from snobbery, and who read satires on snobbery with tranquil superiority, may be devoured by the desire in another form. It may be the very intensity of their desire to enter some quite different Ring which renders them immune from all the allurements of high life. An invitation from a duchess would be very cold comfort to a man smarting under the sense of exclusion from some artistic or communistic côterie. Poor man—it is not large, lighted rooms, or champagne, or even scandals about peers and Cabinet Ministers that he wants: it is the sacred little attic or studio, the heads bent together, the fog of tobacco smoke, and the delicious knowledge that we—we four or five all huddled beside this stove—are the people who know.

Immediately reminded of that Slate Star Codex discussion of whether nerds (or other analogous groups) are more immune to status chasing than normal people.

Comment author: Vulture 28 October 2014 03:51:58PM 1 point [-]

Don't we have a list of "useful concepts" somewhere? This should go there.

Comment author: DataPacRat 28 October 2014 02:26:22PM 1 point [-]

C.S. Lewis: Secret Silver Slytherin?

Comment author: zedzed 28 October 2014 04:21:49AM 6 points [-]

I have ~200 Karma and feel like a 'real' (albeit quiet) member of LW, so... no? Also, this is the first time I've heard of the 1,000 threshold, and I've been at least lurking a bit more than a year.

Comment author: DataPacRat 28 October 2014 02:25:54PM 0 points [-]

I could be confabulating, but I have a memory of that threshold being involved in an survey from a few years ago.

Comment author: zedzed 28 October 2014 03:09:30PM 2 points [-]

A quick C-f through the surveys (or, at least, Yvain's censuses) would indicate the threshold was 100 in 2012.

Comment author: Cthulhoo 28 October 2014 09:16:58AM 4 points [-]

I remember that it used to be 100 Karma, although this was when the community was much smaller. Also, it was mostly used as a rule of thumb/heuristic for the personal accountability of one's posts (e.g. some people would withold a downvote the person posting it was new to the community).

Comment author: DataPacRat 28 October 2014 02:27:56PM 4 points [-]

I remember that it used to be

I'm suddenly reminded of a tradition on Slashdot, where someone with, say, a six-digit userID mentions how the place is going downhill, only for someone with a five-digit userID to pipe up, then someone with a three-digit userID to post anything at all...

Comment author: Cthulhoo 28 October 2014 04:29:25PM 0 points [-]

Ha, rereading my comment I see that it may sound pretentious, but this wasn't my intention. Reading your comment just triggered this random factoid stored in my mind :)

Comment author: DanielFilan 29 October 2014 05:16:30AM 3 points [-]

I run meetups in my city, which I guess probably makes me a 'real' member, and only have ~200 karma (in fact, I only broke that threshold by getting karma for taking the census).

Comment author: drethelin 29 October 2014 05:42:40PM 2 points [-]

Depends on what you mean by 'Real' member. Karma is roughly correlated with comment/posting volume so I think 1000 is a decent threshold for "regularly says smart enough things" but plenty of people who are steeped in LW worldview almost never post to LW.

Comment author: gjm 28 October 2014 11:48:47PM 2 points [-]

For what it's worth, I don't recall ever seeing karma=1000 as a threshold of any importance, either for myself or for others. I'm not sure the idea of a "real" member makes much sense either.

I suppose I make some distinction between usernames I recognize immediately and those I don't, which probably correlates pretty well with karma. And maybe between ones for which I have a reasonable idea of what sort of thing the user tends to post about, what kind of positions they take, how impressed (or not) I've been with their thinking, etc., and those for which I haven't. That probably correlates with karma too. Perhaps the first one is kinda sorta a bit like karma>=1000 and the second is kinda sorta a bit like karma>=5000 or thereabouts -- but those numbers are completely made up and the correlation isn't really good enough for them to make a lot of sense.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 October 2014 08:44:39PM 2 points [-]

I am not sure what does "a real member" mean. So far no one tried to collect any dues from me or issue me a membership card. Like shminux, I would probably call myself "a regular".

Comment author: eli_sennesh 29 October 2014 04:57:15PM *  1 point [-]

No. You should either learn a bunch more math, or show the scars on your soul from demon-summoning. Or go to a bunch of in-person meetups and a CFAR workshop.

Comment author: Lumifer 29 October 2014 05:12:19PM -3 points [-]

or show the scars on your soul from demon-summoning

...no, the bite marks are not from a succubus, that's the scratches on the back, the bite marks are from when I let my attention wander from a kitsune for a second...

:-D

Comment author: eli_sennesh 30 October 2014 08:43:55AM -2 points [-]

Succubi and kitsune? You have terrible taste in demons.

Comment author: Lumifer 30 October 2014 02:45:13PM -1 points [-]

Creatures like mariliths and glabrezus I don't allow close enough to leave marks :-P

Comment author: shminux 28 October 2014 08:15:34PM 1 point [-]

I have a bit more than that, and I only self-identify as an LW regular, not any kind of a "real member". At a guess, you are not a real member until you stop looking at your karma, except maybe as a feedback on individual posts and comments.

Comment author: DataPacRat 28 October 2014 09:21:19PM 1 point [-]

I've had that thousand number stuck in my mind for some time now, so I suppose now that I've asked the question, I can actually stop looking at that total, and just try to micro-manage each individual post to maximize the karma it picks up.

... Or not, since I've got other things to spend my time on.

:)

Comment author: Vulture 28 October 2014 03:50:51PM *  1 point [-]

I'm close to breaking a thousand*, which feels exciting, but I don't think of myself as becoming a particularly "real" member. Maybe when I start going to meetups.

*edit: not as close as I thought

Comment author: palladias 28 October 2014 02:01:22PM *  1 point [-]

Meh, I could not remember where I was in relation to this threshhold without scrolling up, and I don't open tabs to check people's karma while I'm reading and commenting.

Comment author: Metus 28 October 2014 11:04:23AM 0 points [-]

I have over 1000 and feel like a welcome guest, but not a real member. The score is from asking vaguely interesting questions, rehashing old LW arguments, a minimal amount of original thought and losing a couple of points from complaining about LW phenomena.