Azathoth123 comments on A discussion of heroic responsibility - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Azathoth123 04 November 2014 05:25:15AM 0 points [-]

Suicide bombers do not achieve their goals,

Really, last time I checked there is now a Caliphate in what is still nominal Iraq and Syria.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 November 2014 05:33:37AM *  1 point [-]

there is now a Caliphate

Not quite. A collection of semi-local militias who managed to piss off just about everyone does not a caliphate make.

P.S. Though as a comment on the grandparent post, some suicide bombers certainly achieve their goals (and that's even ignoring the obvious goal to die a martyr for the cause).

Comment author: Azathoth123 12 November 2014 05:38:41AM 1 point [-]

A collection of semi-local militias who managed to piss off just about everyone

But not enough for "everyone" to mount an effective campaign to destroy them.

Comment author: Jackercrack 04 November 2014 10:58:17PM -1 points [-]

Achieved almost entirely by fighting through normal means, guns and such so I hardly see the relevant. Suicide bombing kills a vanishing small number of people. IED's are an actual threat.

Their original goal as rebels was to remove a central government and now they're fighting a war of genocide against other rebel factions. I wonder how they would have responded if you'd told them at the start that a short while later they'd be slaughtering fellow muslims in direct opposition to their holy book.