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19 Post author: snarles 29 October 2014 12:49PM

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Comment author: Curiouskid 30 October 2014 11:25:18PM 1 point [-]

Could you elaborate on this? I've heard the term Neoreactionary thrown around, but I'm not exactly sure what it means.

Comment author: jaime2000 31 October 2014 12:36:11AM *  5 points [-]

Neoreaction is an intellectual tradition of right-wing political philosophy composed of bloggers who are ideologically descended from the ideas of Curtis Yarvin, better known as Mencius Moldbug. If you want the five-minute version, read Konkvistador's summaries. If you are willing to read a much longer introduction, try one of these. Or just read the Neoreactionary Canon, which includes all three.

Anyway, the relevance to the grandparent is that LessWrong has a non-trivial neoreactionary minority (3% as of the last survey), and that former SIAI employee Michael Anissimov and his friends went and made a neoreactionary website called MoreRight (an obvious pun on LessWrong). Eliezer Yudkowsky was not amused.

Comment author: [deleted] 31 October 2014 10:49:20AM 2 points [-]

BTW, Yudkowsky and Moldbug have been enemies basically ever since Overcoming Bias and Unqualified Reservations have existed, give or take a year.

Comment author: advancedatheist 01 November 2014 03:03:50PM 1 point [-]

Neoreactionary thinking goes back to the foundations of Western philosophy.. Plato and Aristotle saw democracies in action, and they both argued that human nature finds its fulfillment in small, organic communities of related people where the natural aristocracy that emerges gets to run things, instead of the vulgarians who lacked the personal excellence for the task. This makes Neoreaction a revival of a formerly mainstream view which has fallen out of fashion since the 18th Century because of contingent historical setbacks, not because it got the worse in a fair debate.

So what do intellectual advocates of democracy, egalitarianism, cosmopolitanism, etc. want to do? Throw Plato's and Aristotle's writings out of the Western Canon?

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 November 2014 03:22:42PM 1 point [-]

So what do intellectual advocates of democracy, egalitarianism, cosmopolitanism, etc. want to do? Throw Plato's and Aristotle's writings out of the Western Canon?

That looks like a strawman to me. Could you link to anyone who wants to throw Plato out of the Western canon because he didn't favor democracy? (There are other valid arguments against the Western canon)

Comment author: polymathwannabe 06 November 2014 04:31:56PM -1 points [-]

And better reasons than anti-democracy to throw Plato out.