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I like this post, I like the example, I like the point that science is newer than debate and so we're probably more naturally inclined to debate. I don't like the apparently baseless storytelling.
I don't know much about the environment of evolutionary adaptation, but it sounds like you don't either. Jungle? Didn't we live on the savannah? And forming groups for survival, it seems just as plausible that we formed groups for availability of mates.
If you don't know what the EEA was like, why use it as an example? All you really know is about the modern world. I think reasoning about the modern world makes your point quite well in fact. There are still plenty of people living and dying dependent on their persuasive ability. For example, Adolf Hitler lived while Ernst Rohm died. And we can guess that it's been like this since the beginning of humanity and that this has bred us to have certain behaviors.
I think this reasoning is a lot more reliable, in fact, than imagining what the EEA was like without any education in the subject.
Maybe I'm being pedantic--the middle of the post is structured as a story, a chronology. It definitely reads nicely that way.
It didn't even occur to me to interpret “In the jungle of” literally, to the point that I didn't even notice it contained the word “jungle” until I Ctrl-F'd for it.
The metaphor's going over my head. Don't feel obligated to explain though, I'm only mildly curious. But know that it's not obvious to everyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle#As_metaphor
Well that was a straightforward answer.
(I think the last time I heard the word “jungle” used literally to refer to rainforest was probably in Jumanji.)
(last time I heard the word "jungle" was a Peruvian guy saying his dad grew up in the jungle and telling me about Peruvian native marriage traditions)