Azathoth123 comments on Rationality Quotes November 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Azathoth123 02 November 2014 01:13:34AM *  28 points [-]

Base Commander: Anything I do at this point will only make things worse. Anything!
Chief of Police: Many people would charge in anyway.
Base Commander: Oh, the urge to do something during an emergency is very strong. It takes training and discipline to do nothing.

Freefall by Mark Stanley.

Comment author: [deleted] 08 November 2014 06:13:27PM 5 points [-]

Huh. My default reaction during an emergency is to freeze out like a deer in the headlights.

Comment author: Endovior 12 November 2014 10:18:42PM *  6 points [-]

It seems to me that this is related to the idea of roles. If you don't see yourself as being responsible for handling emergencies, you probably won't do anything about them, hoping someone else will. But if you do see yourself as being the person responsible for handling a crisis situation, then you're a lot more likely to do something about it, because you've taken that responsibility upon yourself.

It's a particularly nuanced response to both take that kind of responsibility for a situation, and then, after carefully evaluating the options, decide that the best course is to do nothing, since it conflicts with that cultivated need to respond. That said, it could easily be a better choice than the alternative of making a probably-bad decision in the spur of the moment with incomplete information. Used properly, it's a level above the position of decisive but unplanned action... though on the surface, it can be hard to distinguish from the default bystander position of passing off responsibility.

Comment author: DanielLC 03 November 2014 05:49:21AM 5 points [-]

I don't entirely agree with them. Dr. Bowmen knows that the they won't do anything, which is why he started messing with Florence in the first place. If they made a habit of doing something during an emergency, Dr. Bowmen would stop causing them.

Comment author: dspeyer 03 November 2014 07:03:31AM 4 points [-]

Dr. Bowmen is consistently two steps ahead of the base commander. Instead of not causing emergencies, he might just leave better traps. Or nastier ones.

Comment author: CCC 03 November 2014 10:42:41AM 0 points [-]

Or he might just arrange to have the Base Commander fired and replaced.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 05 December 2014 08:31:00PM 1 point [-]

Or he would take advantage of what they would predictably do.

Comment author: DanielLC 05 December 2014 11:50:03PM 0 points [-]

They need to make a habit of doing things that are difficult to take advantage of. If doing nothing and charging in are both equally easy to take advantage of, they could try flipping a coin to decide whether or not to charge in.