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Comment author: Nornagest 10 November 2014 09:29:35PM *  2 points [-]

We really need some richer vocabulary for this. Ingroups in the senses of "groups you have positive feelings towards", "groups you consciously consider yourself part of", and "groups you subconsciously affiliate with, e.g. those for which, if their values are attacked, you feel offended" all seem to be psychologically distinct (if correlated), but often get conflated with each other, producing a lot of unproductive semantic argument.

Comment author: Lumifer 10 November 2014 10:02:31PM *  2 points [-]

If we were to go nuts on this, we'd probably need at least two continuous variables here, one to signify to what degree do you accept and support the group's values and goals, and one to determine how much are you actually involved with this particular group.

In practice, I tend to think in the following categories (for positive attitudes):

  • member of
  • affiliated with
  • sympathetic to
  • indifferent