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36 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 20 November 2007 07:58AM

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Comment author: Eugene 18 February 2012 11:23:35AM 4 points [-]

Conversely, studies with newborn mammals have shown that if you deprive them of something as simple as horizontal lines, they will grow up unable to distinguish lines that approach 'horizontalness'. So even separating the most basic evolved behavior from the most basic learned behavior is not intuitive.

Comment author: Cyan 20 February 2012 06:25:53AM 0 points [-]

The deprivation you're talking about takes place over the course of days and weeks -- it reflects the effects of (lack of) reinforcement learning, so it's not really germane to a discussion of preset functions that manifest in the first few minutes after birth.

Comment author: Eugene 27 July 2012 02:31:01AM 3 points [-]

It's relevant insofar as we shouldn't make assumptions on what is and is not preset simply based on observations that take place in a "typical" environment.

Comment author: Cyan 27 July 2012 03:26:00AM *  2 points [-]

Ah, a negative example. Fair point. Guess I wasn't paying enough attention and missed the signal you meant to send by using "conversely" as the first word of your comment.

Comment author: Eugene 27 July 2012 05:37:42AM 1 point [-]

That was lazy of me, in retrospect. I find that often I'm poorer at communicating my intent than I assume I am.

Comment author: Kenny 13 January 2013 06:57:25PM 1 point [-]