Azathoth123 comments on Open thread, Nov. 17 - Nov. 23, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Adele_L 18 November 2014 07:36:49PM 1 point [-]

Maybe that is true in many cases, but even so, it still is a bad thing to optimize for. The outside view says that most of the time, having your percentage of positive karma steadily decreasing means the quality of your comments are getting worse. If you want to be controversial and still be taken seriously, you need to signal your competence in less controversial areas.

Comment author: Lumifer 18 November 2014 07:45:37PM 0 points [-]

it still is a bad thing to optimize for

Impacting the status quo is a fine thing to optimize for. Negative karma is a stupid thing to optimize for.

However I believe that here we are not talking about optimizing, but rather about warning signs.

Comment author: Azathoth123 21 November 2014 04:57:37AM 3 points [-]

Impacting the status quo is a fine thing to optimize for.

No, it's not. It is much easier to "impact the status quo" by making things worse than by making things better.

Comment author: Lumifer 21 November 2014 05:28:28AM 1 point [-]

Optimization implies that you picked a direction. Optimizing impact means optimizing not just magnitude, but magnitude of a specific sign.