Lumifer comments on Neo-reactionaries, why are you neo-reactionary? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2014 08:19:47PM 7 points [-]

large political influence that SJWs can exert

Today's example.

Comment author: bogus 19 November 2014 08:33:04PM *  -1 points [-]

Not so. This guy might describe himself as a "pickup artist" and even work with Real Social Dynamics, but much of the community considers his 'methods' to be quite disgraceful. (Note that RSD itself is among the most reputable pickup groups nowadays, regardless of this particular controversy.) And SJW's (in the Tumblr sense) had little to do with him being barred from entering so many countries.

Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2014 08:40:42PM *  8 points [-]

considers his 'methods' to be quite disgraceful.

And why should the gracefulness of his methods matter for the purpose of granting a visa?

Comment author: bogus 19 November 2014 08:48:29PM 0 points [-]

Why shouldn't it? Julien Blanc is not a UK citizen, he's an alien national who wishes to do business in the UK by teaching his methods there. Entering the country is a privilege, not a right.

Comment author: V_V 21 November 2014 12:47:10AM 10 points [-]

Entering the country is a privilege

Check your privilege! XD

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Anyway, yes, a government has the sovereign right to deny foreign citizens the possibility to enter the country, but it needs legal basis to do so. It's not like any random clerk at the visa office can turn you back because they don't like your face.
I don't know what legal justification they used to keep Julien Blanc out, but given the type of people that the UK has let in its territory, I guess it was probably quite unusual.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 20 November 2014 02:21:24PM 10 points [-]

Entering the country is a privilege, not a right.

Fair enough, but are we applying this standard uniformly, given the fact that e.g. Rotherham happened.

Comment author: Lumifer 19 November 2014 08:54:40PM *  6 points [-]

We are not talking about the rights of a sovereign government. HM Government can bar, say, anyone with a moustache from entering the UK and it would be fully within its rights.