nydwracu comments on Neo-reactionaries, why are you neo-reactionary? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 18 November 2014 11:34:53AM *  2 points [-]

I think a call for patriarchal racially-stratified monarchy is catnip around here. Independently of its native virtues, I mean. It's a debate that couldn't even happen in most communities, so it's reinforcing our sense of LW's peculiar set of community mores.

Personal opinion follows. Contest it if you like, but your chance of swaying me by arguments without giving very hard evidence is low.

The fact that this is "catnip" for LW-ers is a bad thing. We ought to be giving neoreaction about as much credence as we give Creationism: it's founded on bad ethics, false facts, and bad reasoning, and should be dismissed, not discussed to death.

Comment author: Prismattic 18 November 2014 02:46:10PM 15 points [-]

Creationism was discussed to death long before Lesswrong existed, which is why people downvote attempts to rehash it as a waste of everyone's time. To the extent that Neoreaction is something different than plain old Reaction, a) it's a relatively new memeplex, so if it's bad, someone has to do the work of swatting it down, and b) when the Neoreactionaries aren't busy reviving obscure archaic words for their own jargon, they're using Lesswrong-style jargon. You run the risk of outsiders pattern-matching LW and Neoreaction together either way. I'd prefer the association be "Lesswrong is a place where neoreactionary ideas are discussed and sometimes criticized" than "Lesswrong is that place that sounds very similar to Neoreaction minus the explicit politics".

That being said, there's ample discussion already on Slate Star Codex, and I wouldn't want to see it crowding out other topics here.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 November 2014 04:36:22AM 10 points [-]

That being said, there's ample discussion already on Slate Star Codex, and I wouldn't want to see it crowding out other topics here.

I keep hearing people say this. This is a rationalist site; why hasn't anyone gone out and generated some statistics?

Comment author: HBDfan 20 November 2014 01:07:09PM *  -1 points [-]

I'm pleased to see more neoreaction here. This post makes me confident to come back.

Lesswrong needs to use rationality to speak out against the social justice warriors more. We need more rationalists to explain Gamergate and other initiatives. SSC and Ozy come out in favor of Gamergate and Eron Gjoni for example. Politics need not be the mind killer with showing sufficient working.

Comment author: Prismattic 21 November 2014 01:16:23AM 1 point [-]

I don't understand which half of that sentence you are objecting to, or what statistic in particular you would be looking for.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 November 2014 02:47:21AM 5 points [-]

"crowding out"

Comment author: Prismattic 21 November 2014 04:52:59AM 2 points [-]

Ok, but I didn't say this had already happened. I said it is something I would not want to see happen in future. Possibly you were just using my comment as a convenient anchor for a point you were already prepping for someone else, but it doesn't really make sense to address it to me.