TheAncientGeek comments on Neo-reactionaries, why are you neo-reactionary? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Azathoth123 25 November 2014 12:59:50AM *  1 point [-]

If non traditional arrangements are unworkable then they die out,. Why be afraid of things you think are doomed to fail?

The question is what they'll take out with them when they do fail.

Why? Because it's all imprinting?

Not all imprinting but there's certainly some of that.

Heterosexuality is right because it is an inherent default,

No, heterosexuality (and monogamy) is right because it is an effective system for raising children.

yet, so un-inherent that the rumour of an alternative will convert people?

It will convert some people and cause others to mess up their lives. Also what these "find out if you're gay" programs are doing is much more than "a rumour of an alternative".

Also note how you've shifted from "please allow these other systems to operate" to "let us expose all children to these other systems".

There's a difference between teaching creationism and teaching only creationism.

Well even the former causes progressives to totally freak out.

[Edit: fixed, thanks OtherDavid].

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 25 November 2014 10:19:47PM *  0 points [-]

The question is what they'll take out with them when they do fail.

Indeed. So provide some evidence they'll take anything out.

No, heterosexuality (and monogamy) is right because it is an effective system for raising children.

There's no logical connection between "X is effective at Y" and "X is mandatory on everybody".

The existence of celibate priests , spinsters and other non breeders has not historically destroyed any societies.

It will convert some people and cause others to mess up their lives. Also what these "find out if you're gay" > programs are doing is much more than "a rumour of an alternative".

Evidence...evidence...and evidence?

(And notice how anomalous your claims are. In every other case, everybody, including conservatives, can understand the difference between teaching-about and teaching-to. Nobody thinks telling kids about Henry VIII will turn them into wife murderers)

Also note how you've shifted from "please allow these other systems to operate" to "let us expose all children to these other systems".

Nothing has changed.

Comment author: Azathoth123 26 November 2014 03:50:33AM 1 point [-]

And notice how anomalous your claims are. In every other case, everybody, including conservatives, can understand the difference between teaching-about and teaching-to.

Um actually we do, the issue is that progressives what to do the latter.

Nobody thinks telling kids about Henry VIII will turn them into wife murderers

Depends on how it's taught. If the teachers emphasized Henry VIII's behavior as a positive example, they would turn some kids into wife murderers.

Frankly even teaching about will some kids into wife murderers, but the number of such kids is so small that its not worth worrying about (compared with the positive effect of giving the kids a more accurate map of reality.)

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 26 November 2014 10:36:15AM 1 point [-]

Um actually we do, the issue is that progressives what to do the latter.

Evidence?

Frankly even teaching about will some kids into wife murderers,

Evidence?

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