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I think Toggle's observations are very good, and that you should consider everything said there. I started writing up my own response before I realised I was essentially repeating it.
I would like to add something, though - I think that it would be fair to characterize some of what you were doing as informed, insightful criticism, and some of what you were doing as unproductive and possibly hurtful. I don't think it is an all-or-nothing situation. In which case, as well-reasoned constructive criticism is very valuable, you should definitely continue to do that whereever possible, and similarly, you should probably cease the other stuff, the nasty stuff, the unproductive stuff, the hurtful stuff.
Schelling fences are useful. I think simply stopping to have those debates is a better road than hoping to get it right by trying. It's especially the less stressful way.
I think this depends somewhat on your opinion of how much of what Xixidu was doing was productive, and how much wasn't. I think a fairly large proportion of his criticisms are valid enough to be constructive and helpful. Stopping all debates seems to me like throwing the baby out with the bath water.
If you read his own version in this story, dealing with the issue brings himself stress that causes health issues. Dealing with the issue is not good for him by his own admission. Putting higher standards on his own behavior means more stress.
There are situations where it simply makes sense to cut the loses and move on.
My consideration of the value of his criticism was separate to these health concerns. Perhaps when taking it into account, yours is the sensible conclusion to come to.
On LW we have the habit to analyse details and have high standards for them. There are cases where that's valuable. In this case it makes more sense to look at the situation as a whole and see how a solution with beneficial for everyone involved looks like.
Look at the the decision tree and the results and then pick the node that goes in the right direction.