Salemicus comments on Misdiagnosed Asperger's syndrome is ruining my life. - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: Eitan_Zohar 27 November 2014 10:33AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (57)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: Salemicus 27 November 2014 10:56:20AM 8 points [-]

I have no particular knowledge of Israel or the IDF. However, in other countries with conscription, most people do not want to be conscripted, and many greatly exaggerate their medical history and current symptoms in order to be excused on medical grounds. They are often assisted in this matter by sympathetic doctors and health professionals who are socialised by their medical training to care about their patients rather than the abstract goal of maximising conscript numbers.

It may well be that the doctor thought he was doing you a favour by giving you a medical exemption from conscription. I don't know whether you can re-apply, but if so, perhaps you could emphasise to your doctor that you really want to be called up to the IDF.

Secondly, why do you want to join the IDF so badly? Are there other ways you can achieve the same goals? You state that your goal is to join the army, but your location is also stated to be in the USA. Could you perhaps volunteer for the US military?

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 27 November 2014 11:01:29AM *  0 points [-]

The doctor knew; I emphasized to him that I wanted to.

If the IDF won't take me, do you really think a volunteer army would? Maybe they'd be more understanding of how diagnoses are made in the US, but I'm not too hopeful.

Comment author: Khoth 27 November 2014 08:42:09PM 0 points [-]

Does the doctor know about and approve of your reason for being desperate to join?

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 27 November 2014 08:45:10PM 0 points [-]

No, no way.

Comment author: Khoth 27 November 2014 08:46:10PM *  4 points [-]

It's sounding rather as if he made the right decision.

ETA: And even if he didn't, that you're desperate to join up for some mysterious reason is a giant red flag, even if there's an innocent explanation he doesn't know.

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 27 November 2014 08:51:50PM 1 point [-]

It didn't come off that way, and I assume they reject people who are 'desperate to join' on principle.

Comment author: shminux 27 November 2014 10:17:17PM 2 points [-]

Clearly you are not telling us something. Lots of 18yo Israelis are "desperate to join" the IDF for one reason or another, no way this should be a reason for rejecting them.

Comment author: brazil84 28 November 2014 07:56:16AM 1 point [-]

Clearly you are not telling us something. Lots of 18yo Israelis are "desperate to join" the IDF for one reason or another, no way this should be a reason for rejecting them.

I would think that even if you aren't fit to be a commando or a fighter pilot, they would find something constructive for you to do.

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 November 2014 03:11:06PM 0 points [-]

It didn't come off that way

How do you know how something comes off to someone well trained in reading people? The person you are speaking with could be simply be more skillful than you are giving them credit for.

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 28 November 2014 05:18:47PM 0 points [-]

I've been to multiple psychologists. I probably sound more fluent than most people my age.

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 November 2014 05:28:22PM *  1 point [-]

Being fluent in language is not the only thing that matters. I know someone with diagnosed autism whom I suspected having autism based on watching his body language for 10 minutes when I first meet him who had no problem with being fluent.

Comment author: Eitan_Zohar 28 November 2014 07:30:57PM *  1 point [-]

Well, I can't evaluate that. But if I do have Asperger's, than it is so weak as to be irrelevant. My behavior as a child is diametrically different from today and think it's safe to conclude that it was environmental.