John_Maxwell_IV comments on My experience of the recent CFAR workshop - Less Wrong

29 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 27 November 2014 04:17PM

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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 29 November 2014 04:35:47AM 0 points [-]

At this point, you consider your new plan, and again ask yourself: does this feel right? Is this motivating? Are there any slight pangs of regret about giving up my old behavior? If you still don’t want to shift your behavior, chances are that you still have some motive for doing this thing that you have missed, and the feelings of productivity and relaxation aren’t quite enough to cover it. In that case, go back to the step of listing motives.

So I've noticed that sometimes I will be worried about something that my System 2 doesn't think is that much of a problem. In the spirit of listening to my System 1, I will do a lot of research on the thing I'm worried about and try to figure out if I should actually change my behavior in response. Even when my research suggests that I don't need to be worried, however, it doesn't seem like System 1 is put at ease. If anything, it seems like researching and thinking about the issue made my worry more salient.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 30 November 2014 09:52:31AM 1 point [-]

Any concrete examples?

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 30 November 2014 11:56:03PM 1 point [-]

See this. My System 1 was worried that being positive had hidden downsides. So I did a bunch of research and tried to identify all possible downsides. But I was still worried. (It's possible that my System 1 has updated since then however.)

Comment author: pwno 07 December 2014 10:02:14PM 0 points [-]

I think it's because system 1 and system 2 update differently. System 1 often needs experiential evidence in order to update, while system 2 can update using logical deduction alone. Doing a bunch of research is effective in updating system 2, but less so system 1. I'd guess that if you continue being positive and and don't experience any downside to it, then eventually your system 1 will update.