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Are you sure the qualia is all that rare? I thought it was common for people who drive to think of their cars as extensions of themselves.
Or do you mean that you can feel the process of incorporating an object into your sense of self? I can believe that would be very rare.
I haven't driven in any car in the last 5 years, which is the time over which I have become more conscious about my perception, so I can't really tell. I would have to ask someone who has that experience and who also has a reference for hat I'm speaking about, to be certain.
Yes, that's what's more what I mean but it's very hard to find appropriate words. Some people in that state will tell you that they lose their sense of self. It takes a bit of meditation to get there.
Is there a way to train this?
The biggest influence for myself is Danis Bois's perceptive pedagogy (the former English name was somatic-psychoeducation). The problem is that it's not a well known method with little resources in English. Reading "The Wild Region of Lived Experience: Using Somatic-Psychoeducation" is unlikely very productive if you don't have previous knowledge.
Focusing by Eugene Gendlin is a book that helped a few people in the LW-sphere. It gives you a clear 6-step process. A clear process is useful for learning and the more you understand the subject domain, the more you can derivate.