Vaniver comments on 2014 Survey Results - Less Wrong

87 Post author: Yvain 05 January 2015 07:36PM

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Comment author: Vaniver 04 January 2015 10:55:19PM *  10 points [-]

Thanks for doing this!

[This question was poorly worded and should have acknowledged that people can both be asexual and have a specific orientation; as a result it probably vastly undercounted our asexual readers]

I find the "vastly" part dubious, given that 3% asexual already seems disproportionately large (general population seems to be about 1%). I would expect for asexuals to be overrepresented, and I do think the question wording means the survey's estimate underestimates the true proportion, but I don't think that it's, say, actually 10% instead of actually 4%.

Comment author: Grothor 05 January 2015 01:02:30AM 0 points [-]

I would expect for asexuals to be overrepresented

Why do you expect this? It seems reasonable if I think in terms of stereotypes. Also, I guess LWers might be more likely to recognize that they are asexual.

Comment author: Vaniver 05 January 2015 01:19:25AM 2 points [-]

Why do you expect this?

Mostly the negative relationship between intelligence and interest in sex / sexual activity, especially when nerds are involved.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 January 2015 07:44:14PM 0 points [-]

Mostly the negative relationship between intelligence and interest in sex / sexual activity, especially when nerds are involved.

What actually demonstrates this? I know plenty of nerds with healthy sex drives.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 07 January 2015 07:56:49PM *  3 points [-]

See e.g. the post "Intelligence and Intercourse" on the blog Gene Expression (though it appears to only mention studies about people in the US).

Comment author: Lumifer 07 January 2015 07:49:21PM 1 point [-]

the negative relationship between intelligence and interest in sex

There might be a negative relationship between intelligence and success in having sex, which is a different issue not connected to asexuals.

Comment author: alienist 08 January 2015 05:32:05AM *  7 points [-]

Well, it's possible the asexuals got that way from accepting that they were never going to have sex.

Also smart people are more likely to take ideas seriously, including the idea prevalent in many social circles that having a sex drive is evil. See Scott Aaronson's recent comment about how he once begged to be chemically castrated.

Comment author: lalaithion 08 January 2015 09:38:36AM -1 points [-]

I think that, while it is indeed possible for asexuality to arise that way, most evidence seems to point away from that conclusion....

Comment author: Lumifer 08 January 2015 04:03:06PM 1 point [-]

it's possible the asexuals got that way from accepting that they were never going to have sex

While many things are possible, I don't think this is quite the way it works with asexuals...

Also smart people are more likely to take ideas seriously, including the idea prevalent in many social circles that having a sex drive is evil.

On the contrary, I think smart people are more likely to recognize that certain "prevalent in many social circles" ideas are bullshit or outright malicious.

Scott Aaronson's problems in this respect did not arise because he is very smart.

Comment author: Wes_W 07 January 2015 08:08:20PM 0 points [-]

Keep in mind also that other non-heterosexual orientations are also overrepresented, and I don't think anyone is quite sure why, but the same effect maybe applies to asexuals.

Comment author: ssica3003 08 January 2015 12:44:17PM 1 point [-]

I think it's less a case of over-representation and more a case of a group of people who believe strongly in giving honest answers to survey questions in order to get good data and who are reasonably sure their privacy will be protected. Most surveys on sexuality suffer from reluctance to self-report. This (and last year's) figure for bisexuality in particular is more in line with my anecdotal & lived experience than 'official' survey data on the topic (bisexual people <1% population).

Bisexual people (and bisexual men in particular) do exist! Yay! (We knew that, lol).

Comment author: alienist 09 January 2015 02:28:50AM 8 points [-]

This (and last year's) figure for bisexuality in particular is more in line with my anecdotal & lived experience than 'official' survey data on the topic (bisexual people <1% population).

That's probably a function of your social circle.