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The part about Gathsemane is exclusively Mormon doctrine. I'm pretty sure the part about him suffering the pain of our sins, rather than just the comparatively infinitesimal pain of crusifiction, is not.
(I confirm. The garden part definitely wasn't in my mythology.)
Was the part about him suffering from our sins and not just the cross?
The Gahsmane part wasn't in my mythology. The for sins part was.
Just to make sure: it's that the pain he suffered was from our sins, and not just the cross, right?
Suffering. It wasn't specifically mentioned whether the suffering was all transmuted into physical pain while on the cross. In fact it was the actually being dead part that mattered the most - presumably he got whatever we had coming to us when we die while he was dead.
Depends on your theology. From what I remember reading Constantine's Sword, Anselm's theology was that Adam & Eve's crime against God was an infinite crime since God is infinite, and so nothing less than another punishment (of an infinite being) could be equally infinite and wipe it out. So it's not that Jesus experienced, packed into 3 short days, the sins or the suffering of all humanity through all time - it's just one crime of lèse majesté had to be balanced out.
(Of course, this is Christianity we're talking about. If you know of fewer than 100 distinct positions, that just shows you haven't done your homework.)
"Moreover, arguing that an error against God is infinite because He is infinite is like arguing that it is holy because God is, or like thinking that the injuries commited against a tiger must be striped." - Jorge Luis Borges
A classic. I recently re-read my copy of his Nonfiction, so possibly I actually am remembering it from there rather than Constantine's Sword.