Lumifer comments on Effects of Castration on the Life Expectancy of Contemporary Men - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 10 August 2015 06:29:55PM *  6 points [-]

and get a son up to 18 without going through puberty

If the son is not transgender, I would be willing to stick an "abuse" label onto that. This is taking a (presumably) normal human being and fucking him up in a pretty major way.

Comment author: Vaniver 10 August 2015 07:06:38PM 2 points [-]

I'm assuming that this is done with their understanding and consent, to the extent that is possible. (I don't think it's advisable, for a handful of reasons, but I think legal difficulties are a minor impediment at best.)

Comment author: Lumifer 10 August 2015 07:21:21PM 2 points [-]

this is done with their understanding and consent, to the extent that is possible.

I don't think the possible extent is sufficient.

I think legal difficulties are a minor impediment at best

The original case to which I replied involved a straightforward castration, not delaying puberty. The "legal difficulties" might be a minor impediment, but are likely to have major consequences.

Comment author: CAE_Jones 19 August 2015 04:14:02AM 0 points [-]

(I don't think it's advisable, for a handful of reasons, [...])

I agree, even though I'm effectively punishing my past self in doing so.

I would like there to be a mechanism for making this possible, but it just seems too dangerous; even the idea of delaying puberty until the age of consent doesn't work, because apparently this path can have permanent side-effects as well.

Comment author: CAE_Jones 19 August 2015 03:52:08AM 1 point [-]

If the son is not transgender,

Possibly TMI:

I don't consider myself transgender, but I have been wishing this had been done to me pretty much since I was 12.

The main thing I learned from this article is that everything I thought I knew about castration holds up under Lesswrongian analysis, including the part where I completely missed the opportunity and would probably be more likely to die early were I castrated now. There would still be some advantages, but it seems too late to be worth it.

You did specify "presumably normal", though. Presumably, I am far from normal.