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This quotes repository is linked from the sidebar on the right of the site as the "Latest Rationality Quote" space, and quotes in it are showing up as the "Latest Rationality Quote." This is misleading, and may be because you have "quotes" in the tags for this article.
Is there any way to address this?
Removing the "quotes" tag would have done it, or replacing it with quotes-repository. (The issue is 'fixed' now because I made the March quotes thread, but is an issue with these sorts of threads going forward.)
I don't see a reason for that limit. Celebrating our in group is good. If you repeat this thread I would advocate to remove that line.
Echo chambers are bad.
Cutting outside input is bad. Repeating important things usually isn't.
"Lernen, lernen und nochmals lernen." -- plastered everywhere in Soviet schools.
This rule is a fence against the situation where Lenin quotes appear everywhere. You think we should move the fence, lots of folks seem to disagree.
LW is not in a lot of danger of missing or forgetting some important thing Robin/EY/Scott/etc. said. LW is in danger of hero worship, and other related cultishness badness.
I think that LW has enough contrarianism and "Why our kind can't cooperate" describes a real issue.
Spaced repetition theory suggests that it's quite useful to repeat important things that people say.
I also consider it to be quite useful to have a debate about what bits of what Robin/EY/Scott say are of particular importance and what bits aren't. Quotes help the quest of focusing on specific ideas instead of getting lost in complexity.
The rule in this thread allows quotes from Scott.
I am taking my reference class and going home.
So, I think that having each LW page pull a quote from the Best Of Rationality Quotes and put it somewhere would be neat; also, we could have links to the featured articles from the Main Page on every page, so that more people will see them (and it will serve more like the Sequences Rerun). I don't think we really need to have the same thing in many places, instead of pointing to it many times; if I post Yvain's best quotes every month, that gets me a lot of karma I don't really deserve. If, every month, I find five external rationality quotes that haven't been posted here in the years and years of monthly rationality quotes, then that gets me a lot of karma that I do deserve. (And seeing things on an actual spaced repetition schedule is likely better than seeing them as frequently as people decide to repost them.)
I believe this has come up and the consensus (or, at least, my position) was that quotes by Scott should not be allowed in the Rationality Quotes thread.
It's not about posting quotes of third parties that Yvain posted in the quotes thread but choosing quotes from his other writing. Making specific choices about what of his long articles is quote worthy is a decision that adds value.
Quoting writing often means to make a choice to select certain passages of writing over other passages. It's not just repeating the same thing.
This isn't directly the Rationality Quotes thread and as we are starting a new thread, it's worth to be clear about it's rules.
Perhaps we could have an irregular thread for doing just that and trying to find the best passages from LW and peripheral rationality sites?
ETA: Maybe we could also try a thread for summarizing long articles with or without direct quotes?
I did a while ago open such a thread and the amount of contribution it got was relatively low. I don't see a reason to have the thread separate from this thread.
You might be interested in this tag, and the two threads made specifically for quoting from LW/OB. I believe there have been more recent ones--specifically, I think there was one in 2013--but I'm not finding it easily. (Every term I would search for shows up in a lot of other places!)
I don't think either of those threads suggests that people want to cite LW/OB too much.