V_V comments on The Galileo affair: who was on the side of rationality? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jonathan_Lee 18 February 2015 10:50:12AM 4 points [-]

That sounds a rather odd argument to make, even at the time. Astronomy from antiquity was founded on accurate observations.

Astronomy and epistemology aren't quite the same. Predicting where Saturn would be on a given date requires accurate observation, and nobody objected to Coperniucus as a calculational tool. For example, the Jesuits are teaching Copernicus in China in Chinese about 2 years after he publishes, which implies they translated and shipped it with some alacrity.

The heavens were classically held to be made of different stuff; quintessense (later called aether) was not like regular matter -- this is obvious from the inside, because it maintains perpetual motion where normal matter does not. A lot of optical phenomena (eg. twinkling stars, the surface of the moon) were not seen as properties of the objects in question but properties of regular 4-elements matter between us and them.

By a modern standard, the physics is weird and disjointed... but that is historically how it was seen.

Comment author: V_V 18 February 2015 03:44:17PM 1 point [-]

By a modern standard, the physics is weird and disjointed... but that is historically how it was seen.

I wonder how current physics will look like if/when GR and QM will be finally unified...

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 19 February 2015 05:18:57PM 0 points [-]

I'd lay my money on their both being recognizable, but QM coming through cleaner than GR. They both pull a lot of weight - a lot more than 16th century physics did.