linkhyrule5 comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapters 105-107 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Unnamed 17 February 2015 02:59:01AM 7 points [-]

Quirrell's Parseltongue statements could use a close reading.

I cannot be truly killed by any power known to me.

This could just mean that the Pioneer horcrux prevents him from being "truly killed".

And your girl-child friend sshall be revived by me, to true life and health

This seems quite explicit. Quirrell thinks that he can bring Hermione back to life.

Harry: You already have an idea for what you want from me. What is it?

Quirrell: Your help in obtaining the Philosopher's Stone.

(Not in Parseltongue.) Quirrell later asks Harry in Parseltongue to promise to help get the Stone, but he never says in Parseltongue that help getting the Stone is what he actually wants from Harry.

I do not intend to raisse my hand or magic againsst you in future, sso long ass you do not raisse your hand or magic againsst me.

Does this rule out Quirrell transferring his soul into Harry's body (wiping out Harry's identity and reuniting with the Tom Riddle groundwork that he laid in Harry's mind)? Because without this line, that would be my leading hypothesis for what Quirrell actually wants Harry for.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 17 February 2015 05:18:06AM 3 points [-]

On a side note, note that Quirrell is wrong or lying about already fulfilling the terms of the prophecy. The person that Quirrell marked as his equal, who has powers that Quirrell knows not, is the version of Harry Potter after Quirrell forked himself.

Hence, presumably, the sense of doom.

(... what is odd, though, is that Quirrell seems to be on the losing end of that conflict of magic.)

Comment author: Coscott 19 February 2015 07:55:18AM 0 points [-]

Quirrell marked Harry as his equal. I cannot imagine anything more marking someone as your equal than replacing their mind with your own.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 19 February 2015 12:21:49PM 0 points [-]

... but that's not marking someone as your equal, it's killing them and replacing them entirely. That's like saying murdering someone is marking them - maybe, but only in the useless-prophecy "A great nation will fall" sense.

Whereas HJPEV got the same mark that Quirrell got in his first year.