Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapters 105-107

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Two new short chapters! Since the next one is coming tomorrow and we know it'll be short, let's use one thread for both.

This is a new thread to discuss Eliezer Yudkowsky’s Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality and anything related to it. This thread is intended for discussing chapter 105 (and chapter 106, once it comes out tomorrow). EDIT: based on Alsadius' comment about thread creation for MOR chapters, let's also use this thread for chapter 107 (and future chapters until this nears 500 comments) unless someone objects to doing so. Given that this is the final arc we're talking about, thread titles should be updated to indicate chapters covered.

There is a site dedicated to the story at hpmor.com, which is now the place to go to find the authors notes and all sorts of other goodies. AdeleneDawner has kept an archive of Author’s Notes. (This goes up to the notes for chapter 76, and is now not updating. The authors notes from chapter 77 onwards are on hpmor.com.)

Spoiler Warning: this thread is full of spoilers. With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13. More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it’s fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that “Eliezer said X is true” unless you use rot13.

Two new short chapters! Since the next one is coming tomorrow and we know it'll be short, let's use one thread for both.

Spoiler Warning: this thread is full of spoilers. With few exceptions, spoilers for MOR and canon are fair game to post, without warning or rot13. More specifically:

You do not need to rot13 anything about HP:MoR or the original Harry Potter series unless you are posting insider information from Eliezer Yudkowsky which is not supposed to be publicly available (which includes public statements by Eliezer that have been retracted).

If there is evidence for X in MOR and/or canon then it’s fine to post about X without rot13, even if you also have heard privately from Eliezer that X is true. But you should not post that “Eliezer said X is true” unless you use rot13.

My interpretation of that was extremely different: that Harry got riddled when he was a baby, in Godric's Hollow.

The problem with this is that presumably since Harry was AKed by adult Voldemort, his scar contains a Horocrux of adult Voldemort.

So if we are supposed to understand that the diary had some major effect on Harry, it has to have done it in a way that doesn't "mirror canon" much at all.

Well, EY often mirrors canon, while making certain changes for the sake of plausibility - for instance the philosoper's stone works differently. I'm not exactly sure why he would want to change the effects of possession, but I could certainly see him changing the way it works.

the Harry we see now is what you get when Tom Riddle's mind grows up in baby-Harry's brain, raised by his adoptive parents. I'm not even sure what the latter means exactly.

I suppose it would mean baby-Harry knowing how to walk and talk from day one.

The more I think about it, the less sense any of this makes. I mean, sure I can buy that Harry's scar is a Horocrux subtly influencing his behaviour. I could imagine that there are multiple entities in his head. But 'Harry' seems to be the primary. If he can't remember any of Riddle's memories, what does it mean to say that he is Riddle?

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