RowanE comments on The outline of Maletopia - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RowanE 19 February 2015 08:28:25PM 12 points [-]

I don't think "here's my vision of eutopia, isn't it controversial?" is a type of post we should have here. Even if we really should be discussing the possibilities it considers, this seems a particularly bad way of bringing up the ideas - it gives a particular answer to the eutopia question, instead of exploring the relevant aspects of the question, so isn't going to promote useful discussion so much as attempts to smack down the idea.

Comment author: bogus 20 February 2015 03:55:33AM 7 points [-]

Discussing Weirdtopias here is not exactly uncommon, we've had these before. And of course any interesting weirdtopia is going to be "good" at something, that is, "optimized" in some sense. It's an interesting proof of concept regardless.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 21 February 2015 12:10:12AM 1 point [-]

I disagree. Masculinity is an especially important and problematic set of values.

Comment author: fowlertm 21 February 2015 03:48:19PM 1 point [-]

Why? What's wrong with wanting to be masculine?

Comment author: PhilGoetz 23 February 2015 05:37:44AM *  0 points [-]

If it were wrong, it would be a problem, not problematic. That defies the dictionary definition, but "problem" can mean something with a simple solution that hasn't yet been implemented, while "problematic" connotes a persistent problem with no easy solution.

The difficulties with it are already listed in the post, as they're the motivation for the post. Though it might be more fair to say gender is problematic.