Tenoke comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 109 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Tenoke 24 February 2015 01:53:42PM 1 point [-]

The thought of making a better horcrux, of not being content with the spell I had already learned... this thought did not come to me until I had grasped the stupidity of ordinary people, and realised which follies of theirs I had imitated.

This apparently happened significantly later in his life. However

"Nine years and four months after that night, a wandering adventurer named Quirinus Quirrell won past the protections guarding one of my earliest horcruxes.

Doesn't this suggest that Quirrell stumbled upon a horcrux v1, given that it was one of the earliest horcruxes, and that it was 'hidden' by the less wise Riddle?

I suspect Eliezer just didn't notice this, or that the explanation is that after inventing v2, Riddle went back and upgraded all his old horcruxes or something. The alternative explanation is that all v1 horcruxes upgraded automatically when he went for the v2, however we know that Harry is also a v1 horcrux, so that wouldnt make sense.

Comment author: higurashimerlin 24 February 2015 03:35:28PM -1 points [-]

The one Quirrel found was probably a version 2 horcrux. After all you don't hide the version 1 horcruxes because people need to touch them to be overwritten. Tom thought he had fixed that with the version two and started hiding them.

Comment author: Tenoke 24 February 2015 03:46:14PM *  1 point [-]

As with the original horcrux spell, I would only be able to enter a victim who contacted the physical horcrux... and I had hidden my unnumbered horcruxes in places where nobody would ever find them.

"My remaining hope was the horcruxes I had hidden in the hopeless idiocy of my youth. Imbuing them into ancient lockets, instead of anonymous pebbles; guarding them beneath wells of poison in the center of a lake of Inferi, instead of portkeying them into the sea. If someone found one of those, and penetrated their ridiculous protections... but that seemed like a distant hope.

The text suggests that Riddle was stupider at a younger age, which is when he made v1 horcruxes, and used story-like hidding places like those mentioned above. Then later on when he was porbably at least 'twice [harry's] age' he grew wizer, made the horcrux v2, and started hiding them well. Then he dies, and finds out that his only hope is the horcruxes from his youth, which weren't hidden well, and it is suggested that Quirrel found one of those, so likely a v1 horcrux.

At any rate, even if we just focus on the 'one of my earliest horcruxes' part, that still heavily implies a v1 horcrux.

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