gwillen comments on Saving for the long term - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwillen 24 February 2015 07:58:59AM *  3 points [-]

It might be worth considering a mixed or hybrid path -- if you can get a high-paying traditional (software, finance, etc.) job, while being very frugal and saving money (and you don't have much or any debt), you can get pretty quickly to the point of having a very comfortable savings buffer. If at that point you use your savings for living frugally, but not for funding your startups (do that with Other People's Money), I think you'll have more runway and more options than you might otherwise, and should you find that the startup life is not working out you should have a good backup trajectory available where you go back to a high-paying traditional career and retire.

I'm curious why you think (4) seems unlikely -- is this a fact about your personality, or about the world (i.e. you think there will be no normal-ish jobs, and/or the world will not survive to see your retirement?) Considering again high-paying jobs like software and finance, I think the math shows that a very frugal person can effectively retire after very few years in such a job -- perhaps as little as a decade, certainly as little as two, which is similar to your stated startup timeframe -- depending on what your goals are. And once you're in "effective retirement" (i.e. you don't have a problem supporting yourself), then you're in a great position to try to get a startup going.

Comment author: adamzerner 26 February 2015 03:19:52AM 0 points [-]

I'm curious why you think (4) seems unlikely -- is this a fact about your personality, or about the world (i.e. you think there will be no normal-ish jobs, and/or the world will not survive to see your retirement?)

Let me try to clarify. What I'm trying to say is that 1 & 2 seem likely enough that I won't need to worry about saving for retirement. And even if (!1 && !2), it seems very likely that I'll be both willing and able to continue earning money well past retirement age. Given these three things, it seems like pursuing 4 is unlikely to be worthwhile.