Vaniver comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 111 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Yvain 25 February 2015 07:08:27PM *  25 points [-]

So Harry gets his wand back, gets his pouch back, Voldemort resurrects Hermione with superpowers, then Voldemort becomes super-weak, his horcruxes mysteriously stop working, and he mentions this is happening loudly enough for Harry to hear and kill him?

Either this is still all in the mirror, or Harry needs to buy lottery tickets right away.

Comment author: Vaniver 25 February 2015 07:15:44PM 3 points [-]

Either this is still all in the mirror

I think it's more plausible that the mirror acts like it does in canon; that is, you see the room you're in, plus some features that you deeply desire; you don't see yourself leave the room unless you actually leave the room.

Harry needs to buy lottery tickets right away.

I see three broad paths the next chapter could take:

  1. Hermione, wake up! We won and now we have to rescue Dumbledore!
  2. "You thought that would stop me? Now we fight!"
  3. "You thought that would stop me? I had just made a horcrux for her, and your Patronus plus my horcrux is how we're going to solve the death problem. You've failed my loyalty test. And after all I did for you!"

(As always, there is the category of "everything else.")

Comment author: TobyBartels 26 February 2015 05:39:14PM 1 point [-]

Upvoted retroactively.

Comment author: b_sen 25 February 2015 07:27:43PM 1 point [-]

I think it's more plausible that the mirror acts like it does in canon; that is, you see the room you're in, plus some features that you deeply desire; you don't see yourself leave the room unless you actually leave the room.

They did leave the room and go to a graveyard before Hermione was resurrected.

Comment author: Vaniver 25 February 2015 07:37:34PM 1 point [-]

They did leave the room and go to a graveyard before Hermione was resurrected.

The reader sees them leave the room and go to a graveyard. But whether or not they in actuality left the room depends on how the mirror transmits information. Yvain is leaving open the possibility that Harry is hallucinating this (with the mirror's help), and giving it high probability because of how much is going in his favor very quickly. I agree that's a possibility, but think it's unlikely given how the canon mirror operated and the evidence we have of how the MOR!mirror operates.

Comment author: b_sen 25 February 2015 07:41:48PM 1 point [-]

I see. Point taken, then.

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