taryneast comments on When None Dare Urge Restraint - Less Wrong

41 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 08 December 2007 11:09PM

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Comment author: denis_bider 08 December 2007 11:53:17PM -1 points [-]

Despite your post being entirely correct, if for a moment we ignore the welfare of humanity and consider the welfare of the United States alone, there is a good chance that this irrational overreaction will be remembered, and that it will serve as deterrence to any aspiring attackers for a hundred years to come.

Sometimes irrational wrath pays, especially if you can inflict pain much more effectively than you need to endure it.

The cost to humanity is probably dominated by some 1,000,000 deaths in Iraq, but the cost to the U.S. at least in terms of deaths is comparatively smaller. The Iraq deaths are an externality.

Comment author: taryneast 18 February 2011 10:32:50AM 19 points [-]

As a non-US citizen, I can state that the irrational over-reaction was exactly the response that the terrorists were aiming for. Lots of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - lots of panic and mindless reaction... it has also greatly debilitated the effectiveness (and no doubt the profitability) of the entire world's air-transport system, without actually enhancing security thereby.

There is no deterrent here

IMO this would not in any way discourage future attackers - but encourage them.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 February 2011 11:33:51AM 16 points [-]

As a non-US citizen, I can state that the irrational over-reaction was exactly the response that the terrorists were aiming for.

I concur. Terrorists. Want terror. Got terror.

Comment author: christopherj 07 December 2013 08:38:29PM 5 points [-]

I remember when I heard "They hate us for our freedom" I immediately thought, "Don't worry, soon we'll have much less of those". Turns out they still hate us, probably for bombing their country and replacing their democracy with dictatorships in the name of democracy.