ChristianKl comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 26 February 2015 11:36:04AM 0 points [-]

having an army would buy time

How? I don't think it reduces the ways Voldemort can attack individual wizards by a meaningful amount.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 26 February 2015 12:16:23PM 0 points [-]

If you gather wizards in defensible locations such as Hogwarts, and then defend them with an army, then yes it does.

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 February 2015 01:26:12PM *  0 points [-]

Voldemort can hide his wand at a safe place. Then he detaches from a body. As a free roaming spirit Voldemort can take over a student inside Hogwarts and transfigure solids into gas.

What's the Muggle army going to do to defend against such an attack? Helicopter gunships don't help at all.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 26 February 2015 01:45:03PM *  0 points [-]

Gas masks?

But its not just a Muggle army, its a Muggle-Wizard alliance. The wizards counter the subtle threats, like this, while the muggles defend against a brute-force assault. Specifically, the Maurauder's map, if it can be recovered, would detect Tom Riddle, and I'd guess there would be other methods.

Also, he has stated that he doesn't want to kill students, he wants to rule them.

Comment author: Jost 26 February 2015 02:07:02PM 0 points [-]

The gas doesn’t have to be poisonous. It could be an explosive (or simply oxygen, which returns to its original solid form, while it is in someone’s lungs …)

Also, Voldemort is flexible about not killing people. He doesn’t want to rule over a pile of ashes, but he won’t abandon his plans just because they force him to kill someone. Even Harry abandoned the superhero morality after the first victim …

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 26 February 2015 08:50:58PM 0 points [-]

True enough. In the case that Voldemort decides to use some form of gas weapon, the best solution seems to be a combination of biochem warfare suits, bubble-head charms, and mass 'finite incarnum' to clear the air. This would defend against transfigured gasses in general.

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 February 2015 01:53:31PM 0 points [-]

Also, he has stated that he doesn't want to kill students, he wants to rule them.

Yes, it's questionable that he even would want to attack Hogwarts.

while the muggles defend against a brute-force assault.

He can just transfigure a nuclear bomb and explode it near Hogwarts. Hogwarts itself might have protections but the army around likely doesn't.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 26 February 2015 08:46:37PM 1 point [-]

Given Quirrel's rant about Muggles destroying the world with nukes, I doubt he'd escalate the situation by using one, especially when he has so many other options.