alienist comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, February 2015, chapter 112 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Nornagest 26 February 2015 10:00:32PM *  6 points [-]

And then there's all the callbacks to those. Here's a few lines of Keats I read recently:

...but to that second circle of sad Hell

Where in the gust, the whirl-wind, and the flaw

Of hail-stones, lovers need not tell

Their sorrows; pale were the lips I saw

Pale were the lips I kissed, and fair the form

I floated with, about that melancholy storm.

For those keeping score at home, that's Keats alluding to Dante alluding to a famous and semi-legendary Italian love affair. And the Bible, of course. Earlier in the same poem, Keats throws in a lot of references to Greek myth too.

Comment author: alienist 27 February 2015 04:22:38AM 0 points [-]

Of course Keats isn't alluding to contemporary literature, but to works that have lasted long enough that one can be confident their popularity isn't limited to a particular moment.

Comment author: Nornagest 27 February 2015 04:29:59AM *  6 points [-]

In that instance, yes; but these are the Romantics we're talking about. They referenced each other all the time.

Pop culture references are not a new thing. They just stop being pop after a certain amount of time passes.