lmm comments on Rationality Quotes Thread March 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lmm 20 March 2015 09:20:19PM 1 point [-]

This seems obviously false. Am I missing something?

Comment author: g_pepper 21 March 2015 11:45:34PM *  5 points [-]

I think that C.S. Lewis means that when a person puts forth an assertion, you should ascertain the truth of falsity of the assertion by examining the assertion alone; the mental state of the person making the assertion is irrelevant.

Presumably Lewis is arguing against the genetic fallacy, or more specifically, Bulverism.

Edit: Why the downvote? My comment was fairly non-controversial (I thought).

Comment author: Jiro 22 March 2015 02:13:54AM -2 points [-]

Whether a belief is wishful thinking is inherently an assertion about the mental state of a person. It is meaningless to say that you should examine the assertion instead of the mental state, since the assertion is an assertion about the mental state.

Comment author: g_pepper 22 March 2015 03:49:49AM 2 points [-]

I don't know about that. Merriam Webster defines wishful thinking as:

an attitude or belief that something you want to happen will happen even though it is not likely or possible

So if my calculations are accurate, per Merriam Webster's definition, I have not engaged in wishful thinking.