linkhyrule5 comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 114 + chapter 115 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gattsuru 03 March 2015 07:00:09PM 2 points [-]

Interesting. I wonder ifHarry just killed Sirius. I suppose that's not exactly the most important thing from a shut-up-and-multiply perspective, but it might also explain an additional reason why Harry avoids looking (and finding information about) something he may change later with the use of a time turner.

Also, no reference to a certain pack of cards yet.

Comment author: linkhyrule5 03 March 2015 07:04:40PM 1 point [-]

Pack of cards?

Comment author: gattsuru 03 March 2015 07:33:32PM 1 point [-]

Dumbledore gave Harry a pack of cards that had portkey functionality, under the name Santa Claus and claiming that they were a portkey to Salem, but instead heading to a location somewhere in London. Harry gave them back for further investigation, thinking that they might be a trap, Dumbledore took them back but didn't activate the portkey.

It's possible that this was just a short reference, meant to establish Dumbledore's steps of trust in parallel to the gift of the Cloak of Invisibility, and that Harry did not retrieve the portkey and Dumbledore did not place it upon Harry's person...

But activation trigger was to rip the King of Hearts -- a king card known for its face character stabbing itself in the back of the head -- in half.

Comment author: BrindIf 03 March 2015 11:17:24PM 0 points [-]

By the way, who gave the Cloak to Harry?

Comment author: Bound_up 04 March 2015 05:36:20AM 4 points [-]

I vote Dumbledore; he's a clever schemer.

Dumbledore wants to give Harry his cloak, but decides to capitalize on the opportunity. He delivers it anonymously with a note telling Harry not to trust Dumbledore.

Upon meeting Dumbledore, this allows him to impress Harry by deducing the nature of his cape, and then show his trustworthiness. Furthermore, he can comment on the potentially pure motives of the mud-slinger.

Harry is alternately ashamed of his distrust of Dumbledore, and impressed with Dumbledore's charity and kindness, +2 to Dumbledore.

Comment author: gattsuru 04 March 2015 12:05:53AM 2 points [-]

It's not been explicitly confirmed, but given the similarity in forms to later notes signed Santa (and confirmed to be Dumbledore), the note's writer claiming the Cloak was freely given by Harry's father, and the explicit warning against letting Dumbledore see the Cloak, it's very likely that Dumbledore gave Harry the Cloak as in canon.

Comment author: Jost 03 March 2015 07:17:44PM *  1 point [-]

Chapter 63:

But just in case... The Salem Witches' Institute in America accepts boys as well, despite the name. They are good people and would protect you even from Dumbledore, if you needed it. Britain holds that you need Dumbledore's permission to emigrate to magical America, but magical America disagrees. So in the final extremity, get outside the wards of Hogwarts and tear in half the King of Hearts from this deck of cards.

That you should resort to it only in the final extremity goes without saying.

Be well, Harry Potter.

- Santa Claus

Comment author: Vaniver 03 March 2015 07:33:02PM *  2 points [-]

As I recall, that was planted by Dumbledore and led to a location in London.

Comment author: seer 05 March 2015 05:05:53AM 6 points [-]

Who told you that?

Comment author: Vaniver 05 March 2015 02:13:11PM 0 points [-]

Dumbledore? Yes, the Defense Professor was the one who IDed it as London, but Dumbledore didn't challenge his story.