CellBioGuy comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 116 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 04 March 2015 10:04:04PM 10 points [-]

And thus, Eliezer's mild obsession with conspiracy-for-the-greater-good-in-fiction-and-science rears its head again...

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 05 March 2015 08:30:24AM 1 point [-]

I've been re-reading the fic, and the science conspiracy idea shows up early on.

Quirrel in chapter 20:

"There are gates you do not open, there are seals you do not breach! The fools who can't resist meddling are killed by the lesser perils early on, and the survivors all know that there are secrets you do not share with anyone who lacks the intelligence and the discipline to discover them for themselves! Every powerful wizard knows that! Even the most terrible Dark Wizards know that! And those idiot Muggles can't seem to figure it out! The eager little fools who discovered the secret of nuclear weapons didn't keep it to themselves, they told their fool politicians and now we must live under the constant threat of annihilation!"

Harry gets on board with the idea in chapter 23:

"The secret of blood," said Harry Potter, an intense look on his face, "is something called deoxyribonucleic acid. You don't say that name in front of anyone who's not a scientist..."

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 05 March 2015 03:38:39PM 4 points [-]

In 23 I took it to mean he was using conspiracy-ish-ness to get Draco on board.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 06 March 2015 10:52:54AM *  2 points [-]

In-universe play-acting or not, it's still strengthening the motif by having it keep turning up.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 06 March 2015 01:00:13PM 0 points [-]

Right. I was just pointing out that it's not being presented as something EY is actually suggesting. Here we have it as advice from Voldemort and a lure to someone who's actively attracted by conspiracy.

Comment author: Duncan 05 March 2015 06:45:30PM 0 points [-]

I don't see how this is a problem. Do you think it is a problem ? If so, then why specifically and do you have any ideas for a solution?

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