Unknowns comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 118 - Less Wrong

2 Post author: Gondolinian 09 March 2015 07:05PM

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Comment author: Unknowns 10 March 2015 04:24:35AM 4 points [-]

Right. This is why I said that total obliviation is worse than death. Not only are you removed, you can later be used to support purposes outright opposed to your goals, as Harry intends to do with Voldemort.

Comment author: Leonhart 10 March 2015 09:39:04PM *  1 point [-]

This seems odd to me, though I'm not saying you're wrong. From the inside, my values seem far more akin to habits or reflexes than to time-indexed memories.

I imagine Obliviated!me still having a NO DON'T reaction when asked to support a purpose opposed to my previous goals, because verbalised goals flow from wordless moral habits; not the other way around. (assuming a possibly inconsistent scenario where I retain enough language for someone to expect to manipulate me)

Comment author: JoshuaZ 10 March 2015 02:34:19PM *  1 point [-]

Since Voldemort's goal set was extremely self-centered, I'm not sure results in a universe where he no longer exists can be stated to opposed to his goals in any meaningful way. They simply don't concern him.