Velorien comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 119 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: WalterL 11 March 2015 04:12:06PM 0 points [-]

Honestly I think you just have to throw up your hands at the Unbreakable Vow. Nothing about Wizarding society makes the slightest bit of sense once you realize that they have the Unbreakable Vow. It wouldn't look like it does.

Comment author: DanielLC 11 March 2015 07:09:24PM 1 point [-]

The unbreakable vow is basically giving people the death penalty with no way to ask for any kind of exemption due to unforeseen circumstances. It's not something to be used lightly. Also, in Methods of Rationality someone permanently has to lose some magic, which is also something not to be used lightly.

Comment author: Velorien 11 March 2015 07:27:44PM 0 points [-]

Hence the example I suggest - whatever price the Unbreakable Vow exacts, there will be things that are worth it, like not going to Azkaban.

Comment author: Subbak 11 March 2015 09:49:42PM -1 points [-]

Except people are cruel and many of them would rather see criminals in Azkaban than living a relatively normal life. Although to be honest, making criminals chose between Azkaban and the last part of A Clockwork Orangeis pretty awful already in my opinion.

Comment author: Jiro 12 March 2015 04:19:42AM *  2 points [-]

People precommit to punishing criminals because having a precommitment discourages crime--if the criminal can figure out that you'll change your mind once the crime is over with, and not punish them, the prospect of punishment won't work as a deterrent. But if you have to follow through on the precommitment, that may mean you just "cruelly" punished a criminal "even though at this point causing the criminal harm doesn't benefit anyone".

Most people don't consciously think of it this way, but people don't usually know why their own memes spread.