pepe_prime comments on Is Scott Alexander bad at math? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JonahSinick 06 May 2015 04:21:11PM *  2 points [-]

With due respect to those involved, this is not "upper echelons of society", this is a set of people highly respected in a small and isolated bubble.

This is a semantic distinction. They're much higher status than most people in mainstream society, the same is not true of most LWers. That's what I meant.

It all depends on the baseline, but these advantages don't sound huge to me. Going to a magnet school and to Swarthmore is nothing extraordinary.

The more significant thing was growing up around my father: that gave me a large advantage over the people who I went to school with as well.

But even putting that aside, what fraction of LW commenters do you think had better environmental conditions than I did? In particular, what about yourself?

And what evidence do you have to support this view?

There are surface indicators, e.g. I have a PhD in math, which isn't true of almost any LWers. But even stronger than that, I've met with a number of elite mathematicians (advisors of multiple Fields medalists, etc., professors at the Institute for Advanced Studies, where Einstein, Von Neumann and Godel were, etc.) who have expressed high regard for me as a thinker.

Comment author: pepe_prime 06 May 2015 04:51:28PM 4 points [-]

I'd like to point out that the 2014 survey found 7.0% of LWers to have PhDs and 2.9% to have other professional degrees. These objective measures are considered by society at large to be of roughly equal intellectual caliber. You probably don't outstrip this roughly 1 in 10 lesswrongers by a such a large margin.

Of course, the survey results may not be accurate. Furthermore while most of those degrees are in sciences, only a handful are in math or a close field. Thus if you consider math to require higher intellectual caliber (as I'm sure we both do) then you are still probably right about being of at least "higher" intellectual caliber.

I guess you think the expressions of high regard from elite mathematicians are pretty big indicators though.