Jiro comments on Is Scott Alexander bad at math? - Less Wrong

31 Post author: JonahSinick 04 May 2015 05:11AM

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Comment author: Jiro 06 May 2015 04:08:09PM 2 points [-]

What I'm puzzled by is the fact that some LWers who engage with me don't seem to respect me in the way that I respect them (as shown by my taking time to communicate with them when the time could be spent in other ways!).

The ultimate problem is that you seem to have a double standard, and this is an example of it. If you taking time to communicate with them counts as a sign of you respecting them, then them taking the time to communicate with you should count as a sign of them respecting you. Just like the double standard where someone who criticizes you is "skeptical of the value of an author's writing" but when you do the same thing to other people, you're just correcting misconceptions and influencing the person's thinking. You're nobody special here, just like everyone else is nobody special. [1]

[1] There are some people, like Eliezer, who sometimes get treated as special. I don't agree at all with this.

Comment author: JonahSinick 06 May 2015 04:16:38PM 3 points [-]

The ultimate problem is that you seem to have a double standard, and this is an example of it. If you taking time to communicate with them counts as a sign of you respecting them, then them taking the time to communicate with you should count as a sign of them respecting you.

Your comments have been giving me the sense that you don't respect me – have I been misreading you?

Comment author: Jiro 06 May 2015 05:18:47PM 1 point [-]

I think you are too quick to take disagreement personally. Interpreting disagreement as lack of respect is an example of this.

Comment author: dxu 06 May 2015 05:33:43PM 2 points [-]

I think it's more issues like tone, personally. (Particularly egregious are examples of "you are" statements, instead of "I feel" statements, which I've noticed many LWers seem really prone to making. It's a lot less pretentious-sounding when you prefix your statements with an "I feel" or "I think" or "in my opnion".)

Comment author: JonahSinick 06 May 2015 05:32:31PM 2 points [-]

You didn't answer my question: do you respect me? :-) You're not giving any positive feedback whatsoever. I don't care what you think of me, but it's reasonable for me to assume that you don't have any positive feelings toward me if you're not saying anything positive.

Comment author: Jiro 06 May 2015 05:35:53PM 2 points [-]

I respect you by my standards, but apparently not by your standards.

Comment author: itaibn0 07 May 2015 01:35:18AM 1 point [-]

Based on JonahSinick's prior comments, his motivation for asking this question is pretty clear. You have already critiqued the thought process that made him think this question is necessary, to attack it again is almost double-counting. I think if you had answered the question directly the discussion would have a better chance of bootstrapping out of mutual unintelligibility. Then again, I mostly lurk and only rarely participate in internet debates so I don't feel I really understand how any given discussion strategy would actually play out. Also, I cheated, since Jonah already expressed a desire for a direct answer.