JonahSinick comments on Is Scott Alexander bad at math? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JonahSinick 05 May 2015 07:10:20PM *  1 point [-]

I really don't care what people think of me. The point that I'm making is a general one that doesn't have to do with me specifically at all: people are responsible for their own learning.

I welcome constructive criticism, but it doesn't help anyone for people to read what I write without approaching with an inquisitive and open mindset.

I'm not being paid to write these articles, I'm doing it for the benefit of others. Doing it requires large time commitments from me. If people don't think that they can learn from me, they don't have to read my articles.

[Edit:] If you aren't benefiting from reading my writing and don't believe that you can offer constructive criticism that would lead me to make my writing more beneficial to you, don't waste your time arguing with me – do something more productive. Do something that makes you happy. I don't have delusions of grandeur: I don't think that reading my articles is an optimal use of time for everyone – there are lots of other very fulfilling ways to spend time .

Comment author: [deleted] 06 May 2015 10:44:06PM 5 points [-]

I really don't care what people think of me.

Well you should, but now you're having to make stand-offish statements because people are being bizarrely hostile to the notion that you possess domain expertise and direct experience, and are doing the rest of us the favor of trying to convey it.

Comment author: JonahSinick 06 May 2015 11:02:49PM 2 points [-]

:D

I meant that I don't feel an emotional desire to be respected by the LW community. It should be obvious – I'm not interacting with people in a way that's optimal for getting respect ;-).

Can you help me understand why people are being hostile to my claim that I have orders of magnitude more subject matter knowledge than they do? The most obvious explanation is ugly – that it makes them feel inferior by comparison, independently of whether or not I have any smugness about it (which I don't). If true, that's their problem, not my problem: the costs of not being explicit about the situation are prohibitively high to me.

Is there something that I'm missing? If someone wants to give a detailed explanation for why he or she doubts my subject matter knowledge, I'll read it with great interest.

It shouldn't be offensive that I don't have time to carefully optimize to not come across as thinking that I'm higher status than other community members. I'm putting much more time into my posts than they are into their comments! They're implicitly saying that I'm not worth their time in offering detailed thoughtful responses. This is fine: everybody has limited time, but the situation of people pressing me to justify the value of my posts seems so bizarre to me, given that they're not putting nearly as much effort in as I am.

If someone wants to signal that he's intellectually serious, he can write a full length article carefully responding to mine, going into details about where he disagrees and where he agree, and why. That's all it would take for me to take him seriously.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2015 02:00:28PM 0 points [-]

Can you help me understand why people are being hostile to my claim that I have orders of magnitude more subject matter knowledge than they do? The most obvious explanation is ugly – that it makes them feel inferior by comparison, independently of whether or not I have any smugness about it (which I don't).

Well, let me tell you: academics often come across as somewhat smug to everyone who's not an academic.

But, you missed an even more abundantly obvious explanation: you're an outsider, so anything you say, other than blatant gestures of joining-the-ingroup, comes across as more hostile than it should.

Comment author: pepe_prime 07 May 2015 03:28:34PM *  4 points [-]

you're an outsider

Jonah has something like 91 posts and has been posting since May 2013.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 May 2015 03:32:30PM 2 points [-]

Ah, really? Interesting! I thought everyone was reacting to his being an outsider. Huh, turns out he's an insider. Dafuck?