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Oh. Dumbledore must have memory-charmed Lucius.
Why? Wouldn't Lucius just believe Narcissa was burned alive like everyone else did without any further intervention?
Didn't Draco say that Lucius saw it happen?
It looks like chapter 47 is where Draco tells Harry about Narcissa's death, and I'm not seeing anything about Lucius' being an eyewitness. The chapter seems to imply that Lucius was told, just like everyone else:
My understanding was Lucius came home and "found" Narcissa burned in the remnants of the house, or at least remembered doing so. It just doesn't make sense that a clever, cunning man (who brought Draco to see Death Note and criticized the plot) would find no trace of his wife and, knowing Dumbledore to be famously soft-hearted, would just unquestioningly believe that story.
Huh? No. The young Draco looks like what she remembers his father looking like. She hasn't seen Draco since he was a little child.
I think its just blonde over green triggering the name in her mind. As the chapter ends her memory is still coming back. My model of the memories she's getting back goes all the way back to when Dumbledore "killed" her, so she'd remember an adult Lucius.
And Draco is still a little child. Remember, all the first year characters are 11 or at most 12 years old. The storytelling made most of them look much more mature.
Yes, but her memory isn't working well and she likely knew Lucius from a very young age. After all, both were from Noble Houses which were in the pureblood faction. At minimum they would have known each other since Hogwarts.
Narcissa's house isn't 100% in the pure-blood faction, but that's a minor detail.
The Black House isn't 100% in the pure-blood faction?
What HPMOR fact am I forgetting?
Tonks?
BrindIf said it, but I'll confirm: Nymphadora Tonks appeared in MOR, and there was no suggestion that her mother [ETA: Andromeda, who is Narcissa's and Bellatrix's sister] differs from canon. (ETA: In particular, Andromeda must have still married a Muggle for Tonks to get her surname.)
Ah. Even ignoring that the context is from when they are children, I don't consider the black sheep disowned from the family as having a bearing on where the House stands, but alright. Semantics, I suppose.
As I said, it's a minor detail.