TobyBartels comments on [FINAL CHAPTER] Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, March 2015, chapter 122 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 16 March 2015 07:10:14AM *  5 points [-]

As Harry's pet?

EDIT To head off the inevitable need to clarify myself, I clarify now: This refers entirely to Hermione's current status as the not-in-the-know smiling gofer being handed her role by the ever so wise 11-year-old savior and master of the fate of the universe who is of course the only person who could ever guide the whole fricking world in such a way that it won't be destroyed and tell her what she should be because reasons. And of course she just takes it. I interpreted this not as sexism but as the exaltation of Harry over all others who are of course less than sane/rational/special/human/important/worthy/cosmically-significant for basically no reason other than Time Says So. And everyone just goes along with it. That whole aspect of this whole chapter (and the last several) made me cringe. For multiple reasons.

Comment author: TobyBartels 16 March 2015 09:27:17AM 2 points [-]

But at the same time, Harry tries several times to give Hermione her own agency and not reduce her to this role. Or at least he says that he's trying to do that. He's not very good at it yet.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 16 March 2015 10:56:35AM 5 points [-]

I believe that what happens on stage is what's important in a story.

More generally, I think Harry should be doing more towards putting together a team. I hope that Eliezer more fully learns the lesson from how well HPMOR fans did with the final exam.

To be fair, HPMOR was a major achievement. Doing justice to fiction about a team of very smart people might be more than can be expected.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 17 March 2015 02:03:23AM 2 points [-]

I think Harry should be doing more towards putting together a team.

It's Hermione who thinks of others as PCs who one could build a team out of, and has demonstrated that she can do it.

I hope that Eliezer more fully learns the lesson from how well HPMOR fans did with the final exam.

I hope we all do. And the rest of the world as well. Intellectual endeavors really should be able to iterate much faster than the paper publishing loop. Make intellectual work scalable in time and space and people.

Comment author: falenas108 17 March 2015 04:00:28AM 1 point [-]

More generally, I think Harry should be doing more towards putting together a team.

Which is a lesson he should have learned when Hermione beat him and Draco in the first battle.